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SibesRock
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 Posted - 08/11/2009 : 11:22:47
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Since this is a discussion forum, I think I'll chime in right away. To answer the question concerning movement, YES! I went to watch the show this past weekend since it was close to my home and was so totally amazed at what I saw as to question the future of the Siberian as a functioning working dog.
There were 16 class entries and 5 specials to watch and I was shocked by the quality, or should I say, lack of quality in the animals in the ring.Since this is a discussion forum, I think I'll chime in right away. To answer the question concerning movement, YES! I went to watch the show this past weekend since it was close to my home and was so totally amazed at what I saw as to question the future of the Siberian as a functioning working dog.
I was shocked by the quality, or should I say, lack of quality in the animals in the ring.
There were the usual issues we see, hockey rears, tail sets and the like. The stuff we see in a lot of show dogs and don't really criticize too much, but this is where it started and went down hill.
There were bad fronts. So severely short upper leg that the poor dogs couldn't reach out and so moved from the elbow, doing the goose step or flipped their front legs to move around the ring. There were rears that were so wide that there was no way the dog could single track and you could see both the front legs between the rears as they moved away. Looked like a bulldog.
There was one boy who's rear was so messed up, that it is almost impossible to describe. But a cute head. LOL. What's interesting is this boy has points and a major. I guess it's the professional handler.
I would say 60% of the animals there in the classes should be in pet homes because there is no way they can do what they are intended to do.
To top this off, there were 2 specials just as bad.
I understand being kennel blind, but this was terrible.
Thankfully the judge put up the best of the animals available, but on a normal day, these class dog and bitch winners have a tough time.
Do you see similar issues in your areas?
What should be done to dissuade these owners from showing and especially breeding these dogs?
How much responsibility do the breeders have in being ethical and tell owners the truth?
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LoveSibes
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Posted - 08/12/2009 : 18:48:12
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I believe that the only reason people continue to show dogs that may not fit the standard or may not be as high of "quality" as others is because judges will put them up. Simple as that. If judges followed the standard and strayed from the politics, the best dogs would be put up every time and there wouldn't be room for confusion.
When people lower quality dogs winning, they will assume that their lower quality dog will also have a chance and they will show it. I, myself have seen breeders/handlers show up with 6 or 7 great dogs which were sidelined to an inferior dog who took breed. The next day, with a different judge, that breeder/handler with those 6 or 7 dogs went home with everything.
My point is, everything seems to take a backseat to the politics. I must also say that I did not think the dog who won breed was the best dog out there if we were at the same show. |
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SibesRock
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Posted - 08/27/2009 : 11:38:44
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So I guess the fix would be judges education. If the judges actually knew what they were looking at these bad animals would not be out there, but from what I've heard is that when the judges show up for education, it is a social get together and no one does any on the required work.
Why is this?
I would think because it's done by people that they're friends with and so not worried about getting dinged.
There is a way around this and that would be the AKC needs to hire an outside organization to run the program as well as provide the instructors/presenters. This would press the judges into actually studying and passing the requirements.
It some times seems that judges and some long time breeders have a sense of entitlement and don't need to refresh there memory, ect.
As to politics, since the system to become a judge is cumbersome and time consuming, it lends itself to cronyism. Until AKC does something to change that, we are stuck in the system. |
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